Comments on: Part 2 http://www.lostaddress.org/2007/03/10/part-2 making our stupidity help you Mon, 06 Feb 2012 03:16:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Place of Stuff » Blog Archive » Part 3 http://www.lostaddress.org/2007/03/10/part-2/comment-page-1#comment-5736 Place of Stuff » Blog Archive » Part 3 Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:16:09 +0000 http://www.lostaddress.org/index.php/2007/03/10/debian-day-one/#comment-5736 [...] would have thought that, around a month ago when I decided to try a different distro, that it would stick. I tried installed PC Linux OS to try [...] [...] would have thought that, around a month ago when I decided to try a different distro, that it would stick. I tried installed PC Linux OS to try [...]

]]> By: Ray http://www.lostaddress.org/2007/03/10/part-2/comment-page-1#comment-4960 Ray Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:37:01 +0000 http://www.lostaddress.org/index.php/2007/03/10/debian-day-one/#comment-4960 I'm on plain old WEP, btw - no WPA for me right now. May move to it later. I’m on plain old WEP, btw – no WPA for me right now. May move to it later.

]]> By: Ray http://www.lostaddress.org/2007/03/10/part-2/comment-page-1#comment-4959 Ray Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:36:10 +0000 http://www.lostaddress.org/index.php/2007/03/10/debian-day-one/#comment-4959 It's a distro challenge to myself - use another distro in much the same way I'd use Slack. I still don't like using a package manager - what I'd like is a Synaptic digest in Slackware. Basically, open SynSlacktic (a name I just invented) which will give you a list of software and links to the home page. Then you go get it. After the initial culture shock, it's less painful than I thought. But then Debian is still quite bare bones..... Mandriva may be too much to bear :lol: It’s a distro challenge to myself – use another distro in much the same way I’d use Slack. I still don’t like using a package manager – what I’d like is a Synaptic digest in Slackware. Basically, open SynSlacktic (a name I just invented) which will give you a list of software and links to the home page. Then you go get it.

After the initial culture shock, it’s less painful than I thought. But then Debian is still quite bare bones….. Mandriva may be too much to bear :lol:

]]> By: J_K9 http://www.lostaddress.org/2007/03/10/part-2/comment-page-1#comment-4958 J_K9 Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:03:09 +0000 http://www.lostaddress.org/index.php/2007/03/10/debian-day-one/#comment-4958 It's good to hear that you're enjoying using Debian, despite a few differences... I never, ever thought I would hear of you using a distro which relies (to a certain extent) on a package manager - Lent must be getting to you (drop some stuff, take on others) :D By the way, with ndiswrapper, have you managed to get WPA support working? It probably depends on the card and driver, but my desktop (with a RT2500-based card) is the last Linux-running computer to get onto my wireless network and I had little success the last time I tried it! Hehe! Keep us updated ;) It’s good to hear that you’re enjoying using Debian, despite a few differences… I never, ever thought I would hear of you using a distro which relies (to a certain extent) on a package manager – Lent must be getting to you (drop some stuff, take on others) :D

By the way, with ndiswrapper, have you managed to get WPA support working? It probably depends on the card and driver, but my desktop (with a RT2500-based card) is the last Linux-running computer to get onto my wireless network and I had little success the last time I tried it! Hehe!

Keep us updated ;)

]]> By: Ray http://www.lostaddress.org/2007/03/10/part-2/comment-page-1#comment-4946 Ray Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:27:39 +0000 http://www.lostaddress.org/index.php/2007/03/10/debian-day-one/#comment-4946 Yeah, the whle module-assistant thing isn't obvious, but is logical if you know you are dealing with kernel modules. It's one of those things that you need a lot early on and then rarely ever again. The updating the kernel breaks things isn't unique to Debian, but any package manager makes it ever more likely that it will happen :) Thanks Hari Yeah, the whle module-assistant thing isn’t obvious, but is logical if you know you are dealing with kernel modules. It’s one of those things that you need a lot early on and then rarely ever again.

The updating the kernel breaks things isn’t unique to Debian, but any package manager makes it ever more likely that it will happen :)

Thanks Hari

]]> By: hari http://www.lostaddress.org/2007/03/10/part-2/comment-page-1#comment-4936 hari Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:06:32 +0000 http://www.lostaddress.org/index.php/2007/03/10/debian-day-one/#comment-4936 A lot of things done the "Debian" way might be confusing, actually. But in fact, you can use the regular compilation and installation using ./configure; make; make install; you do in Slackware under Debian too. The only thing is that it will not be integrated with the existing package management system and *can* cause conflicts in the future. Actually doing some things the Debian way can be a lot cleaner than using the "regular" way. However, I myself have not yet discovered a few Debian tricks like module-assistant in spite of using Debian for a good part of 3 years - I simply didn't need to. :P Be ware of kernel upgrades though. While most things will work properly when you use apt-get to upgrade kernels, it *might* break a few things like 3d acceleration or any custom drivers you might have installed. In that case, the best thing is to just install the main package like linux-image-2.6.18-3-386 and so on and not the meta-package which might be linux-image-2.6-3-386 which depends on the latest version available. A lot of things done the “Debian” way might be confusing, actually. But in fact, you can use the regular compilation and installation using ./configure; make; make install; you do in Slackware under Debian too. The only thing is that it will not be integrated with the existing package management system and *can* cause conflicts in the future.

Actually doing some things the Debian way can be a lot cleaner than using the “regular” way. However, I myself have not yet discovered a few Debian tricks like module-assistant in spite of using Debian for a good part of 3 years – I simply didn’t need to. :P

Be ware of kernel upgrades though. While most things will work properly when you use apt-get to upgrade kernels, it *might* break a few things like 3d acceleration or any custom drivers you might have installed.

In that case, the best thing is to just install the main package like linux-image-2.6.18-3-386 and so on and not the meta-package which might be linux-image-2.6-3-386 which depends on the latest version available.

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